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11/26/23

Like to Have a Conversation with Jesus? Here’s What Some Say about That...... (Originally posted Sept. 22, 2023)

 





Reported by Robert R. Schwarz


People Don't Have to Be Just Like Us

to Be Following Jesus with Us. (Anonymous)




     A Gardener Who Connects with Jesus Via a “Vine”


Sixty-two-year-old Rich Kolari has for years been mowing grass and beautifying lawns in my neighborhood. I asked him the other day at  lunch at a local Subway eatery what his favorite Bible verse was .He quoted Jesus  from John 15:1... "I am the vine;  you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing." Then, being the self-appointed-yet-modest evangelist he is, Rich added: " We don't want to be broken branches and lose  the sap of life. "

          " Sounds like you have a relationship with Jesus , " I said.   

      " Oh, yes," he replied.  He then quoted the refrain from a favorite hymn saying, What a Friend We have  in Jesus .

      I encouraged  Rich to tell me more--boy, did he !        

      

"Ever hear His voice ?" I finally asked. 

   "Yes, I have. You know Jesus says  He is our shepherd.”  

      "And of course, you pray to Him?" I asked.

      " I pray directly to our Savior. We need to take time with private moments with our Lord and have fellowship with Him, and that we be responsible about it…make a daily commitment …so we can drink  directly from the throne of God."

      "Honestly now, Rich,"  I asked, "have you ever seen Jesus or had a  vision of Him ? "

      Rich paused for a moment, obviously pleased with the question.     "Yeah , in my mid twenties , when I was  in the Marine Corps. "         He explained that it was after a church event  in Arlington Heights, Illinois, where we both live.   

     "I was alone in a hotel  room. My eyes were closed and I had a mini vision of Jesus with tears flowing out of His eyes. I knew it was straight passionate love for the church, and  that He wanted to reach out and help people."

      It was my turn to  pause. 

      "Tell me, Rich, " the journalist in me had to ask ,  "can you recall  a moment in your life when you cried to Jesus for mercy ?"               

      Rich  related an event when returning  one winter from a visit with his father in Arizona ( Rich was then  about 25 years of age  ) and  was driving through New Mexico  and  decided to head  north through the mountains towards Denver . "There was  a  bridge with ice on it.  I slid on the ice and  hit the side of  the bridge. I called on the Lord that I would not  go off the bridge and into  a dark  ravine below .

      "Jesus heard me.  My car was ruined, but I was fine.  I started hitchhiking.  Whoever picked me up told me about a nearby  church ,  and then  drove me to it. The pastor's wife took me in  for the  night, and  I got a good night's rest. "

      The next day, Rich told me, he  hitchhiked back to his mother's house in  Arlington Heights."Today ," Rich said, "I  thank God  for all the people who helped me then.  The Lord was watching over me…"

***   

           

An Army Chaplain in a War Zone  , Now a Priest,  Saw Jesus as  "Trust, Mercy and  Grace "     


    

As a U.S. Army chaplain for five and a  half years during our country's warfare in Afghanistan, Fr.  Matthew Foley  knows exactly what Jesus Christ meant with His words,  Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends. Fr. Foley often saw the holy truth of these words lived out by American soldiers.   As pastor  of the St. James Catholic Church in Arlington Heights, his homilies often urged his parish members to have an ongoing relationship  with Jesus .

          "What his real-life relationship and personal thoughts were  about Jesus  are what drew me to interview him," he continued. "As a Christian, I had questions that needed answers, like what  really is a  relationship with Jesus?"

          We sat in his office. Fr. Matt was then is in his mid-fifties, he has blue eyes and black hair always trimmed short . He exercises to stay trim and stands at  five- feet- seven. He smiles a lot and listens more than he talks.        

          Me:  A lot of Christians hear that phrase, a relationship with Jesus.  Tell me, how do you, as a priest  define, it ?  I think a lot of people would like to hear  about your own relationship  with Him."

         

             Fr. Matt: I see my  relationship with Jesus as an ongoing process of surrender [ to Him ], a  discovery, with  trust, mercy and  grace.

          Me:  Do you talk with Him , have a conversation ?

          Fr. Matt: I talk to Jesus all daylong.  I  believe I believe there are moments of a tremendous sense of humility  I have before Him  when I'm celebrating the Mass , anointing the sick.

         ( Fr. Matt said there also  are moments when he has a strong sense of Jesus' presence . He said  he distinguishes between what Jesus is saying to Him  and what his  own mind is  saying . )          

          Fr. Matt:  I  take advantage of one of those  moments  and enter into a dialogue [ with Jesus ] , which is listening more than speaking.   

          Me:  Can you recall how  your relationship with Jesus was  formed ?

         

          Fr. Matt:  I believe that probably  the relationship began with God's mercy and grace at  the time  I was baptized... and then, also by the modeling of my parents and other Christian people . My parents were the first and foremost teachers of my faith in Jesus Christ. Through the reading of scripture, Jesus has allowed  me to see  His heart  and receive the spirit of wisdom that allows me to go deeper into my prayers.


Me:  When you were a chaplain in Afghanistan , was there a prayer you offered up more  than other prayers?


          Fr. Foley:  'Lord Jesus, help me surrender my  will to your will.'   I've been saying that prayer for years.

         

          Me: Any other thoughts about Jesus related to your time as a chaplain  there ?


          Fr. Foley:  Well, Jesus said there's  no greater love than to lay down one's life for a friend…and I've seen that.


          Me:  Any advice for someone still searching for Jesus , for a real-life relationship with Him?


          Fr. Foley:  Find a friend who knows Jesus. Join a Bible study group or go to a retreat that focuses on Jesus.



"I Hear Jesus' Voice Every Day Like a Tap on Shoulder" , Says This Deacon and Missionary to  Uganda 


     


When Don Grossnickle  has time to depart  for a few days from his duties as deacon of his Arlington Heights church, he's  off to Uganda, Africa, to help save babies and their mothers now dying there from Malaria. When back home again, he resumes his after-hours labor of raising  funds for a non-profit foundation ( Microfinance Alliance Africa Projects Foundation Post Office Box 1471 ) .


      We sat down at my patio table and talked .  Don is a husky  73- year- old with Swedish heritage. He  has authored 14 books and 50 articles for educational journals, and he likes to explain life's  principles.  He and his wife raised  three children.

      "Tell me about your relationship with Jesus," I began. 

      " I have a very close relationship with Jesus ," he said.   "He has every dimension of  kinship with me. I can  see Him, imagine Him, taste Him, and  feel Him through my prayer by  reading His word in scripture . When I pray I definitely feel the person of Jesus .  And , yes,    "I hear His voice every day…"

       "How so ? " I asked.  

      " Like a  tap on the shoulder ,  an affirmation, " he replied.

      "You see him'' ? 

      Don thought  for a moment. He wanted to be clear, but I intruded upon his thoughts by recalling hearing retired St. James priest Fr. Bill Zavaski quote Pope Francis:  "You see the face of Jesus on the face of people."

      "I can relate to that," Don said. "I've seen a lot of  pain—and joy—in people during my 32 years as deacon, at funerals, weddings. "    


       Don's faith life had been formed, he said, by listening to his mother from an early age talk about  God. "The idea of Jesus really grew—and still is growing. There has come a feeling of being embraced by God the Father and  Jesus the Good Shepherd ."

     He explained that his commitment to the Commandments of Jesus  and to his church and mission to Africa were  cemented  five years ago  while on a pilgrimage to Sicily. He and a friend decided to climb an  active volcano  there.  Climbing downward, both of Don's legs were disabled  with severe cramps. Soon after that incident, he was diagnosed with a terminal heart ailment and given two years to live. That  doctor's diagnosis  was almost five years ago. 

(to read more about Don's mission go to : https://exodustrekkers.blogspot.com/2019/06/the-heart-of-american-suburbanite_30.html )


Does the Teaching Contradict what the Bible Says

about God? (from footnote 13: 22, 23 for Mark 13, 31,

in the "Life Application Study Bible") 



 He Makes Disciples for Jesus. His 9-Year-Old Daughter Talked to Jesus

     



     Matt Marcheschi, 40, is  a  missionary for the St. James Catholic church in Arlington Heights. With the help of his associate missionary there, Sara  Stanley,  has helped hundreds of his fellow parishioners  have a real-life relationship with Jesus. Obviously, it isn't easy work for him, but during our interview, Matt said  he loves it.

      His  focus is on the parish outreach program  FOCUS,  which generates a Jesus-related  discipleship "vision"  for the more than 50 ministries at St. James Parish. .

      " I'd like to hear more about that relationship with Jesus, " I told Matt.

      " I think Catholic Christianity is all about relationship ," he replied.  "When we have that , it's easier to see everything Jesus tells  us . A phrase of his  that has stuck with me is:  rules without a relationship will lead to rebellion.”

When I asked whether members of his several  FOCUS groups  share with him about their personal  conversations with Jesus , he  replied,  "Of course. I think their  private  prayers  are those conversations. Here's an example:  My wife and I were going to bed the other night when our my nine-year-old  daughter told my wife that a 'scary image' had  come into her head . She then said  that she immediately started to have a conversation with Jesus that went like , 'Jesus I love you ',  and ' I know you know what's best for me  and  please take away all  the anxieties and burdens that Mommy  and Daddy have ' ".

        " It was beautiful coming from a nine-year-old….And, yeah,  I think that's what we're all striving for , to have that conversation through the day, throughout the week with Jesus. Not just a  rote prayer. "

      " Do you ever hear Jesus speak to you ? "

      " Sure, " Matt said. "When I'm reading scripture, something will resonate with me, like an  affirmation of something I'm doing or plan to do. It helps if  I hear this affirmation a second time when going  to mass. One reason  why FOCUS encourages daily prayer is that  God  speaks to us in the silence. I think he's trying to speak to us all the time , but we're just not attentive to it ."

      Matt pondered the question whether  he believed  his FOCUS people actually ever saw Jesus.  He replied  with a question: " Do we ever trust that Jesus can perform  miracles today , those we  read about in scriptures  or hear  have occurred in our lifetime ?... Some things, you know, go beyond our understanding."

      This missionary continued: " People are on different parts of their journey in FOCUS, " he  said. " They are asking  the fundamental questions: Why  am I here? Who is Jesus?  Who is God ?  Others want to deepen  their relationship with Jesus…The  ultimate goal  of FOCUS people  is to share with others   the answers they have found.

      "My faith journey, my relationship with Jesus has been a series of  deepening encounters…like when I was at a Good Friday service with my daughter and I heard it said that 'everything changes when the Cross becomes personal to us.' Right after the church's veneration of the cross,  I  saw the young, the old, the handicapped, the blind— all those people going up to venerate the wood of the cross in  front of all of us . And as  I got back to my pew, I just broke down because I had again been reminded  that Jesus  died for me . It all  became personal in that moment. My daughter was  there , and she's like, are you okay, Daddy ?  It was a powerful moment, definitely an encounter I had with Jesus. He had reminded me of a truth." 


"If you act with determination, I am ready to guarantee you that you have already found Him (Jesus ) " 


    In November of 2019 , Fr. Bill  Zavasky told his Christ-seeking audience that " if you act with determination, I am ready to guarantee you that you have already found Him.” Then he delivered a homily that brought the congregation at St. James Church to a meditative silence. After walking a few paces across the altar with an emboldened expression, he ended his homily with:  "I have something important to tell you ..." Lowering his voice, he said, "Here's how to have a true relationship with Jesus.  "Look for Him on peoples' faces and in their behavior. " 


    Josemaría Escrivá is  a Spanish Roman Catholic priest.and founder of Opus Dei, an organization of laypeople and priests dedicated to the teaching that everyone is called to holiness by God and that ordinary life can result in sanctity. He was declared a saint in 2002 by Pope John Paul II.The following is from ,Friends of God, one of his many books.

    I have distinguished it [ winning a true relationship with Jesus ] as it were four stages in our efforts to identify ourselves with Christ: seeking Him, finding Him, getting to know Him, loving Him. It may seem clear to you that you are only at the first stage. Seek Him then, hungrily; seek Him within yourselves with all your strength. If you act with determination, I am ready to guarantee that you have already found Him, and have begun to get to know Him and to love Him, and to hold your conversation in Heaven. “



A closing note from the Exodus Trekkers author...

" I have a close daily relationship with the  Holy Spirit who, when I  diligently pay attention,  guides me through the day, sometimes as if I’m on crutches and blind in one eye and deaf in one ear. In heaven, I'm  looking forward to having a close-up conversation with Jesus and surrounded by my family,close friends, and a few others who blessed my life on earth." 


I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say

(Text Horatius Bonar, 1808-1889. 

      Harmony by Ralph Vaughan Williams,

                                                                            1872-1958 )

                                                       I heard the voice of Jesus say, " Come 

                                                       unto me and rest; Lay down, O weary

                                                      one, lay down Your head upon my breast."

                                                     " I came to Jesus as I was, So weary 

                                                     worn, and sad; I found in him a resting                                                                                                  place, And he has made me glad.


The End

On Sunday, Dec. 3:
"What a Deacon Learned  From His Ministry

For  Poor People Living and Working 

With Them on a Famous  Race Track"

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